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Spaarnwoude Assurantiën / BG-Demo – Negotiation

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Spaarnwoude Assurantiën logo Spaarnwoude Assurantiën · 10 Mar 2026 14:00

Negotiation on the Starter order form draft. Maarten Zwart will sign as managing director. Billing, first-term discount and users were settled in principle, with signature aimed for early April.

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What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Negotiation on the Starter order form draft. Maarten Zwart will sign as managing director. Billing, first-term discount and users were settled in principle, with signature aimed for early April.

What happened: Matteo Ricci shared the order form draft, with Owen Tallis joining for the commercial part. Anouk Bosman joined for finance. The draft is an open item, not executed paper.

Customer view: Maarten said he signs as managing director and wants the rules known now: "I do not like surprises at renewal". Anouk accepted GBP invoicing and preferred annual in advance.

Commercial: The deal sits at £28k on the record, with a subscription line and a one-off implementation fee. The first-term discount applies to the first term only, then list price.

Watch: Ilse Kuipers worried about paying for users who never log in. Owen promised a usage check at the first check-in. Signature is still to come.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Starter order form terms
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Matteo Ricci to send the final order form marked as the one to sign.
  • Matteo to send the service section page reference to Anouk Bosman and the security questions list to Joost and Ilse.
  • Matteo to keep Owen Tallis posted on the signature date for the forecast.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Signature is not yet in hand and the early April target is tight.
  • Ilse is worried about paying for users who will not log in, which could become a value question at the first check-in.
  • The first-term discount ends after the first term, so list price will apply at renewal.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Additional users are available as an add-on if adoption exceeds fifteen.
  • A clear, surprise-free price path now supports a smoother first renewal.

Transcript

  1. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Good afternoon, everyone. Can you all see the document? I have shared the order form draft.
  2. Maarten Zwart
    Maarten Zwart
    I can see it, yes. Good afternoon. Anouk is on too, I think.
  3. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    Hello, I am here. Sorry, I was on another call. Go ahead.
  4. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Hello all. Owen Tallis, I am the VP Sales here, Matteo has asked me to join for the commercial part. Where does this stand against the date?
  5. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Good to have you, Owen. We are aiming to sign early in April, so the timing is tight but workable if we settle the terms today.
  6. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Right. Then let's be clear on the number before we talk about anything else. The deal sits at £28,000 on the record. Maarten, is that the figure you are comfortable with?
  7. Maarten Zwart
    Maarten Zwart
    It is the figure I was told. I would like to see the breakdown, because I am not sure what is in it.
  8. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Fair. The breakdown is in the order form, which Matteo has on screen. Matteo, take us through it.
  9. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Happy to. There are two parts. There is the subscription for the Starter tier, which is annual, and there is the one-off implementation fee. The order form shows both, line by line, so nothing is hidden in a total.
  10. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    Right, and how does that get invoiced? We are not paying in euros, are we?
  11. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Pounds. Everything is invoiced in GBP, and you will want to sort the exchange side on your end. I know that is not what you want to hear.
  12. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    No, it is not, but it is fine. I just need to know so I can tell our bank and our finance system.
  13. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    The subscription is billed annually in advance. Quarterly billing is available on request, and the terms are thirty days from invoice. Anouk, I will put those in the order form so there is nothing to chase later.
  14. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    Good. Annual in advance is simpler for us. We have fewer invoices to match.
  15. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Let's not discount twice, though. Matteo, what has already been agreed on price?
  16. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    There is a first-term discount that has been discussed, capped at the standard level. It applies to the first term only. From the second term the list price applies, and I want Maarten to hear that clearly now rather than at renewal.
  17. Maarten Zwart
    Maarten Zwart
    Yes, I would prefer that. I do not like surprises at renewal, and I would rather know the rules now.
  18. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Good. Then we will not quote anything beyond the first-term discount. Who signs?
  19. Maarten Zwart
    Maarten Zwart
    I sign, as managing director. Ilse runs it day to day, but the signature is mine.
  20. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Thank you. What's the next dated step, Matteo?
  21. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Once you are happy with the terms, the executed order form comes back to us, and I send the kickoff details the same day. I would like the executed copy before the start of April.
  22. Ilse Kuipers
    Ilse Kuipers
    Sorry, I have a question about the users. Are we still on the fifteen users?
  23. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Yes, fifteen users is the soft limit on Starter, and four connectors is the hard limit. If you need more users later, that is an add-on, and we can talk about it at the right time.
  24. Ilse Kuipers
    Ilse Kuipers
    Good. I was worried we were paying for people who will never log in.
  25. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Let's make sure you are not. We will check usage at the first check-in. If the numbers say you are wrong, we fix it then, not now.
  26. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    And the service levels? Where do they sit in the order form? I did not find them on my first read.
  27. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    They are in the terms, under the service section. Starter has an availability commitment and a nightly refresh. I would rather you read them, Anouk, than take my word for it. I will send the page reference.
  28. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    Thank you. I will read it tonight. Sorry, I need to check one thing in the draft, just a moment.
  29. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Take your time. While you look, Owen, shall we discuss the security questionnaire?
  30. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Starter does not need the full security review, that is for Enterprise. Your IT manager may still ask questions, and Matteo will answer them in writing.
  31. Maarten Zwart
    Maarten Zwart
    Joost will ask. He always does. But I trust Matteo's answers, so that is fine.
  32. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Thank you, Maarten. I would rather he asks now than after signature. Shall I send him the questions list today?
  33. Maarten Zwart
    Maarten Zwart
    Yes, but send it to Ilse as well, so she is not surprised by it.
  34. Ilse Kuipers
    Ilse Kuipers
    Thank you. That is helpful.
  35. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Right, then let's wrap the commercial points. Matteo, the breakdown, the terms on billing, the first-term discount, and the questionnaire. Anything else on price?
  36. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Nothing on price. I will not come back to you with a new number without Owen's sign-off, so you can rely on what we have said today.
  37. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    Good. Then Anouk can start the internal approval once the order form is final.
  38. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Yes. I will send the final version after this call, marked clearly as the one to sign.
  39. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Good. Thanks everyone. Matteo, keep me posted on the signature date. I need it for the forecast.
  40. Matteo Ricci
    Matteo Ricci
    Will do. Thank you all for your time, and speak soon.
  41. Maarten Zwart
    Maarten Zwart
    Thank you. Goodbye.
  42. Anouk Bosman
    Anouk Bosman
    Goodbye, and thanks for the clear answers.

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