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Sprotbrough Recruitment logo Sprotbrough Recruitment · 20 May 2024 09:00

Renewal call with the Managing Director questioning £20k for three or four users. Nell Ashcombe proposed renewing Starter on the same terms. No decision was taken; a one-page value note and training slots were promised.

What was said

What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Renewal call with the Managing Director questioning £20k for three or four users. Nell Ashcombe proposed renewing Starter on the same terms. No decision was taken; a one-page value note and training slots were promised.

What happened: Daniel Okafor confirmed the term ends 30 Jul 2024, renewal date 31 Jul 2024, with a target of settling by 15 Jul 2024. Nell proposed renewing Starter at the current £20k a year.

Customer view: Terry Hinchcliffe pressed on cost against three or four regular users and asked about a spreadsheet alternative. Donna Wragg said the tool saves time for those who use it, and Jodie used to spend most of a day on a monthly pack.

Commercial: Terry did not commit and said he would think about it, and Donna said the money is his call. Lynn Staniforth wants dates for her cash forecast and prefers annual in advance.

Watch: Usage has dipped, with room for fifteen users. The one-page note and the new-starter session are the levers.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Starter renewal value challenge
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Daniel Okafor sends Terry a one-page value note before the middle of July.
  • Daniel sends Donna Wragg training slots by Friday.
  • Nell Ashcombe and Daniel prepare the renewal paperwork, aiming to settle by 15 Jul 2024.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Terry Hinchcliffe questions the price against three or four regular users and has not committed to renew.
  • Usage has dipped against the quarter before, which weakens the value case for Starter.
  • A spreadsheet built in-house was raised as a do-it-yourself alternative.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • A one-page note of what the team has asked and found can put the cost next to real outcomes.
  • A training session for new starters could lift use within the fifteen licensed users.

Transcript

  1. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Good morning, everyone. Thank you all for your time. Let me just check who has joined. Terry, Donna, I can see you. Is Lynn with us?
  2. Lynn Staniforth
    Lynn Staniforth
    Here, sorry, just sorting my headphones. Can you hear me all right?
  3. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Loud and clear. And Nell is on as well.
  4. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Morning all. Before we start, what does each of you need to leave with? I'd rather we hit that than march through a list.
  5. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    What's it costing us? That's mine. Renewal's coming up, so what's the number.
  6. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Straight to it, good. Short answer: the order form says nineteen and a half thousand a year for Starter, which is what you've paid since you joined. I'll come back to whether anything changes in a moment.
  7. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Ta. And mine is whether it still saves my lot time. The consultants have been moaning about everything this week, mostly the new job board, nothing to do with you.
  8. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Ha, well, noted. Lynn, what would be useful for you?
  9. Lynn Staniforth
    Lynn Staniforth
    Just the dates and the invoice side. I want to know when the term ends and when you'd raise the invoice, so I can put it in the cash forecast.
  10. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Right. So just to close the loop on the dates: you started on 31 Jul 2023, the current term ends on 30 Jul 2024, and the renewal date on our side is 31 Jul 2024. We're aiming to have it settled by 15 Jul 2024, so nobody is rushing at the end.
  11. Lynn Staniforth
    Lynn Staniforth
    That's fine. Payment terms the same as last time?
  12. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Same as last time, yes. Annual in advance, thirty days. If you ever wanted quarterly we can look at that, but I wouldn't change it unless it helps you.
  13. Lynn Staniforth
    Lynn Staniforth
    Annual's easier. Fewer invoices for me to chase.
  14. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Good. Donna, can I come to you on how the team is finding it? I've got some numbers, but I'd rather hear it from you first.
  15. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Honestly, it's the same few of us. Me, Jodie sometimes, a couple of the senior consultants. They like seeing the client, the roles and the placements and the invoices all in one place. Which client is that, how much have we billed them, who placed what. Saves them a trawl.
  16. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    That matches what I see. Three or four people using it in a typical month. It has dipped a little compared with the quarter before, and I wanted to ask whether that's anything we should know about.
  17. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    It's a busy stretch. Warehouse hiring picked up and everyone's out on the phones. And one of the consultants went off to another desk. Nothing wrong with the tool, keep it simple for the consultants, that's all I ask.
  18. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Three or four people. For nineteen and a half thousand.
  19. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Fair challenge, Terry, and I'd rather you said it. You're licensed for fifteen users, so there's room. The question is whether the people who do use it get enough out of it. What would B-Viz say? It would say look at the questions being asked, not the headcount.
  20. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Could we do it ourselves? A spreadsheet off the CRM, the finance system.
  21. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    You could, for a while. The honest cost of that is somebody's time every week reconciling it, and it goes out of date. Donna, did your team do that before?
  22. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Oh yes. Jodie used to build a monthly pack by hand. Took her most of a day. That's what stopped.
  23. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Hm. A day a month.
  24. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    And if I may, Terry, what I'd suggest is that before the middle of July I pull together a short note of what the team has actually asked and found. Then the cost sits next to something real, not just my say so.
  25. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Short, though. I don't read long emails.
  26. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    One page. I promise.
  27. Lynn Staniforth
    Lynn Staniforth
    Can I ask, is the connector side all fine? I heard nothing, which I assume is good.
  28. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    It is good. No tickets in the last month, nothing overdue on your side either, and the nightly refresh has been landing on time. Quiet is what we want from the plumbing.
  29. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Could we have a quick session for the new starters, though? Nothing fancy. Half an hour, show them how to look up a client.
  30. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Of course. That would also help the numbers, to be fair. I'll come back to you by the end of the week with a couple of slots.
  31. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    On price, since Terry asked. As it stands I'm proposing we renew Starter on the same terms as now, nineteen and a half thousand a year. I'm not putting a different figure in front of you today.
  32. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Same terms. Right.
  33. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    I'll think about it. Send me the page and I'll talk to Donna.
  34. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    I'll not say yes for him, mind. Money's Terry's.
  35. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Understood, and that's exactly right. No decision needed today. Lynn, anything else from you?
  36. Lynn Staniforth
    Lynn Staniforth
    No, I'll pencil the date in and wait for the paperwork. Thanks.
  37. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Lovely. Just to close the loop on next steps: I send Terry the one page note, and Donna the training slots by Friday. Nell and I will have the renewal paperwork ready so you can look at it with the note. And we're aiming for 15 Jul 2024 to have it settled.
  38. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Fine. Thanks all.
  39. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Ta, bye all.
  40. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Thanks everyone. Speak soon.

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