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Commondale Care logo Commondale Care · 25 Jan 2024 11:45

Negotiation call on a Growth proposal of £54k. Finance Director Trevor Bulmer signs and wants subscription and implementation shown separately, plus discount, payment terms and service levels in writing.

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Negotiation call on a Growth proposal of £54k. Finance Director Trevor Bulmer signs and wants subscription and implementation shown separately, plus discount, payment terms and service levels in writing.

What happened: Tom Ashdown aimed to agree terms by 16 Feb 2024. Owen Tallis promised a written split of the £54k deal amount, which may include the one-off implementation fee.

Customer view: Trevor wants the annual number clear and the first-term discount figure before anything else. Lynne Featherstone wants scope kept as it is and said the team are keen.

Commercial: Janet Readman asked for quarterly invoicing, which Owen said is available on request, with 30-day terms. Trevor also asked what happens if data goes stale, and Tom will put the service levels in the order form.

Watch: Several written commitments are owed to the customer. Janet checks the order form line by line before Trevor signs. The evidence does not show the discount figure.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Growth deal commercial terms
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Tom Ashdown to send the written breakdown, discount, payment terms and service levels by the end of the week.
  • Owen Tallis to send the order form the week after terms are agreed.
  • Janet Readman to check the order form line by line before Trevor Bulmer signs.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Written commitments on price split, discount, payment terms and service levels must arrive promptly or the deal may slip past the target date.
  • Trevor wants the first-term discount figure before discussing anything else, and the evidence does not show it has been set.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Quarterly invoicing on request could help close the Growth order form.
  • Scope across care operations, incidents, contacts and invoices per home is kept in full.

Transcript

  1. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Morning all, can everyone hear me? Good, let's get started.
  2. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Morning. Owen Tallis, I'm here for the commercial side. Where does this stand against the date?
  3. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    We're aiming for 16 Feb 2024. The proposal is at £53,800 on Growth, and Lynne's had it for a couple of weeks.
  4. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    What's the next dated step? And who signs?
  5. Trevor Bulmer
    Trevor Bulmer
    I sign. Before anything else, I want the annual number clear, and I want to know whether the implementation fee sits inside the £53,800.
  6. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Good question. The £53,800 is the deal amount. It can include the one-off implementation fee, and I'll confirm the split in writing today rather than guess it now.
  7. Trevor Bulmer
    Trevor Bulmer
    Please do. We'll need the annual subscription shown separately, so we can budget for it.
  8. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Agreed. Subscription and implementation shown separately, both in pounds, on one page.
  9. Lynne Featherstone
    Lynne Featherstone
    Our side wants the scope kept as it is. Care operations, incidents, contacts and invoices per home. We don't want to drop anything to save money.
  10. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    I'm not asking you to. Let's not discount twice. There's a first-term discount we can discuss, and that's as far as I can go without going back to my team.
  11. Trevor Bulmer
    Trevor Bulmer
    What is the first-term discount? I'd like the figure before we talk about anything else.
  12. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    I'll put it in writing, with the end date. It only applies to the first term, not after renewal.
  13. Janet Readman
    Janet Readman
    Can I ask about invoicing? We'd like quarterly invoicing if possible, rather than one large payment up front.
  14. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Quarterly is available on request, so yes. The default is annual in advance, and we'd agree quarterly as part of the order form.
  15. Janet Readman
    Janet Readman
    That helps our cash flow. Can you confirm the payment terms?
  16. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Thirty days. Standard terms, and I'll confirm them in the written proposal.
  17. Trevor Bulmer
    Trevor Bulmer
    Also, our service levels. If the data goes stale, what happens?
  18. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Good question. I'll put the service levels into the order form, so you have exactly what the contract says rather than what I remember.
  19. Trevor Bulmer
    Trevor Bulmer
    Good. Put that in writing too.
  20. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Will do. Let's close the loop. We agree the commercial terms by 16 Feb 2024, and I'll have the order form to you the week after.
  21. Lynne Featherstone
    Lynne Featherstone
    I'll be honest, the team are keen. We just need the paperwork right first.
  22. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    That's fair. I'll get the written breakdown, the discount, the payment terms and the service levels to you by the end of the week.
  23. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Right. Who's on your side for signing, Trevor?
  24. Trevor Bulmer
    Trevor Bulmer
    Me. Janet checks the order form before it comes to me.
  25. Janet Readman
    Janet Readman
    Yes, I'll go through it line by line before it reaches Trevor.
  26. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Good. Next dated step is the written proposal, then the order form.
  27. Trevor Bulmer
    Trevor Bulmer
    Agreed. Thanks, everyone.
  28. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Thanks Trevor, Janet, Lynne. Speak soon.
  29. Owen Tallis
    Owen Tallis
    Sorry, I'm off the line. Thanks all, cheers.

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