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Sprotbrough Recruitment logo Sprotbrough Recruitment · 5 Jul 2023 11:45

Negotiation call on the Starter proposal at £26k all-in, implementation included. Terry questioned cost and asked for a discount; he did not commit and will decide after talking to Donna. Close aimed for 17 Jul 2023.

What was said

What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Negotiation call on the Starter proposal at £26k all-in, implementation included. Terry questioned cost and asked for a discount; he did not commit and will decide after talking to Donna. Close aimed for 17 Jul 2023.

What happened: Nell set out the Starter proposal at £26k as the all-in deal value, setup included. Terry asked about a discount, build-it-ourselves and the yearly cost; he left without committing.

Customer view: Terry's worry was paying for a tool nobody uses. Donna backed the product: two consultants saw the demo recording and asked when they could have it.

Commercial: Nell would not promise a first-term adjustment on the call and said she would answer by Friday. The yearly subscription split was promised in writing, in bullets.

Watch: Terry floated doing it in-house with a spreadsheet person. Adoption by the consultants is the condition for him.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Starter price negotiation
Importance
neutral
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Nell to send a short bulleted note with the all-in figure and subscription split.
  • Nell to answer the first-term question by Friday.
  • Terry and Donna to confer, with a close aimed for 17 Jul 2023.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Terry fears paying for a tool the consultants do not use.
  • Terry raised building it in-house as an alternative.
  • No commitment was given and the discount question is open.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Donna reports consultant appetite after the demo on their own data.
  • Starter suits a single consultant team.

Transcript

  1. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Hello, can you both hear me alright?
  2. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Loud and clear. Hiya, Nell. Terry's just getting his camera going, he's in the other office.
  3. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Can you see me? No. Hang on. There. Right.
  4. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Got you. Thanks for making the time, both of you, it's Wednesday and I know Wednesdays are heavy for a recruiter. Before we start, what do you each need to leave with today?
  5. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    What's it costing us? That's it. Final number, what's in it, what's not.
  6. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    And for me, does it save my lot time. That's all I care about really. The consultants moan every week about flipping between the client list, the placements and the invoices.
  7. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Fair. Cost first then, since Terry asked. The proposal we sent last week is the Starter tier. Twenty-five thousand five hundred pounds, all-in, and that includes the implementation. So that's the whole figure for getting you set up and running, not a yearly number on its own.
  8. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Twenty-five five. All-in.
  9. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Yes. £25,500 as the deal value, implementation included. I'd rather say that plainly than have it look smaller than it is.
  10. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Hm. It's not small.
  11. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    It's not massive either, Terry, not for what the consultants waste in a month.
  12. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    You say that. Could we do it ourselves? We've got a lad who does the spreadsheets.
  13. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    You could build something, yes. Honestly, a lot of people try. The question I'd put to you is who looks after it in a year when the lad is busy, or on holiday, or gone. What B-Viz does is sit in your own Snowflake account and keep your CRM, your calls, your invoices in one place that people can just ask questions of.
  14. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Which client is that, though? Say a consultant wants to know what we've placed with one client and what we've billed them. Is that one question?
  15. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    That's the sort of question it's built for. You ask in plain words, it pulls the roles, the placements and the invoices together. We showed you roughly that in the demo on your own data.
  16. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Yeah, that bit went down well. Two of the consultants saw the recording and asked when they could have it.
  17. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Good. That's the best sign I get.
  18. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Right, but what are we paying for each year after? Not just the first bit.
  19. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Fair question, and I'll be careful here. The figure on the table today is the all-in value for the first stretch, setup included. After that it's a subscription, billed in advance, and it's written into the order form so there's nothing hidden. I'll put the split in writing so you can read it properly.
  20. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Don't send a long one.
  21. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Short. A page. Promise.
  22. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    He doesn't read long emails, Nell. I'd put it in bullets.
  23. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    I read them. I just don't enjoy it.
  24. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Bullets it is. Now, what would worry you most about signing? Say it straight, I'd rather hear it now.
  25. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    That we pay and nobody uses it. We've bought tools before. Sat there.
  26. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    That's why I'd keep it simple for the consultants. If it takes more than a couple of clicks they'll go back to the old way. I know them.
  27. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Agreed, and that's on us to get right. Starter is one team, which suits you, because the consultants are the team. Daniel Okafor, who looks after customers here, will sit with them after go-live and ask how the team is finding it, rather than leave you to it.
  28. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Is he the one who did the demo walk-through?
  29. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    That's him. Calm bloke. Remembers everyone's dog's name.
  30. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Ha. Good. Consultants like that.
  31. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Any discount on the number?
  32. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    I thought you might. I can't move far, we're a young company and the price is the price for what it does. What I can do is look at whether anything in the first term is worth adjusting, but I won't promise that on a call. I'd want to put something proper in writing.
  33. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    So that's a maybe.
  34. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    It's a maybe I'll turn into a yes or a no by the end of the week. Is that fair?
  35. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Fair enough.
  36. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Can I ask about timing? Because we've got a busy stretch coming and I don't want the setup landing on top of it.
  37. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Good point. The plan is we aim to close by 17 July 2023, and the setup starts after that. Callie, our implementation consultant, runs it. She'll tell you exactly what she needs from your side and when, so it doesn't land all on you.
  38. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Right. If it's a list with dates I can cope. If it's vague I'll lose it under the pile.
  39. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Callie loves a list with dates. You'll get on.
  40. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Right. I'll think about it.
  41. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Of course. Do you want to think about it now, or shall we leave it with me to send the page and you come back to me?
  42. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Send it. I'll talk to Donna after and let you know. Not today.
  43. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    We'll have a chat this afternoon. I'll tell him what the consultants said.
  44. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Perfect. So, to be clear on what happens next. I send a short note, with bullets, today or tomorrow, with the all-in figure, what's included and my answer on the first-term question by Friday. You two talk. Then we aim for the 17 July 2023 close if you're happy.
  45. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Lovely. That's clear.
  46. Terry Hinchcliffe
    Terry Hinchcliffe
    Yep. Thanks, Nell.
  47. Nell Ashcombe
    Nell Ashcombe
    Thank you both. Speak soon.
  48. Donna Wragg
    Donna Wragg
    Ta-ra. Bye.

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