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Laura Penhaligon

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Duddingston Payroll logo Duddingston Payroll · 10 Apr 2025 16:15

Laura ran a hands-on search and chat session with Ailsa Pringle on Growth. Ailsa found it useful for client history but does not yet trust it. Only a handful of client managers were logging in.

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As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Laura ran a hands-on search and chat session with Ailsa Pringle on Growth. Ailsa found it useful for client history but does not yet trust it. Only a handful of client managers were logging in.

What happened: Laura Penhaligon took Ailsa Pringle through search, call summaries, chat and a saved page. Euan, who looks after payroll systems, was absent and is due at the next session.

Customer view: Ailsa found it quicker for the history of a client but said she is still slower than her old way for some things because she does not trust it yet. It surfaced one employer she had missed completely.

Commercial: Growth licenses forty users and only a handful of client managers log in, so adoption is the gap. Ailsa will ask other client managers to log in this week, and the dashboards builder was held for the next session.

Watch: Trust is the barrier. An answer missed a minor detail from an old email, which Laura put down to indexing or a broad question.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Early adoption training
Importance
neutral
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
user

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Ailsa to ask other client managers to log in this week.
  • Laura to send a written summary and the next session link with Euan invited.
  • Laura and Euan to look at any employer where answers keep missing detail.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Ailsa does not yet trust the answers, which could slow adoption among client managers.
  • Only a handful of client managers log in against forty licensed Growth users.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • The saved watch list page and the cross-system query could be shared with the wider client manager team.
  • The dashboards builder included in Growth is still to be covered.

Transcript

  1. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Hello? Ailsa, can you hear me alright? I think my headset is still on the wrong setting.
  2. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Hi Laura, yes, loud and clear. Sorry, I'm a couple of minutes late, I was finishing a call with one of our employers and it ran over.
  3. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    No problem at all, it's only just gone quarter past. Good afternoon, by the way. How's the week been?
  4. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Busy. Mid-month is always busy for us, everybody's chasing changes before the payroll cut-offs. It's the sort of week where I'd love to stop hunting through four different places for one answer, which I suppose is why we're here.
  5. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    That's exactly the idea. So today is hands-on, no slides. I'll share my screen to begin with, but I'd like you driving as soon as you're comfortable. Is it just you today?
  6. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Just me. Euan, who looks after our payroll systems, couldn't make this one, but he'll join the next and I'll tell him what we've covered.
  7. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Lovely. Let me check where you are. You're on Growth, so forty users licensed, and at the moment only a handful of your client managers have been logging in. Does that sound right?
  8. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Yes, a few of us. I think people are waiting to see if it's worth their time before they change how they work.
  9. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Fair enough, that's normal. So let's make it worth their time. Pick an employer you know well, someone you'd expect a query from this week.
  10. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Okay, um. There's a hospitality client with a lot of seasonal staff. They're always asking about starter paperwork and the pay run dates.
  11. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Perfect. Start with search, the bar at the top. Type the employer's name and just see what comes back before you filter anything.
  12. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Right, so I'm getting a list. There's some calls, some emails, a couple of tickets, and something that looks like a fee record. Mm. That's quite a lot in one place.
  13. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    That's the point. Those are all coming from the connected systems, but you're not having to know which one. Try the filter on the left and narrow it to just the last few weeks.
  14. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Okay, that's cleaner. Can I click into the call?
  15. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Please do. You'll get the transcript and a short summary. You can search inside it as well, so if you're after the bit about the deadline you don't need to read the whole thing.
  16. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Oh, that's useful. I'd normally be listening back to a recording at double speed and hoping. Sorry, go on.
  17. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    No, that's a very common reaction. Now chat. It's the panel on the right. Instead of searching, you ask a question in plain English. Try something like, what has this employer asked us about recently?
  18. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    It's come back with a summary, and it's listed the sources underneath. So the last query was about a late starter, and there was a call about changing the pay date.
  19. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Good. Always glance at the sources. If something looks odd, click through and check it. It's reading your data, but you're still the person who knows the client.
  20. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Yeah, I'd want to check before I told an employer anything anyway. Is it always right?
  21. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    It's only as good as what's been indexed, so if a source is out of date the answer will be too. That's why the sources matter. Euan will see the connector side in the next session, so he can tell you how fresh things are.
  22. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Okay. Can I try a harder one? Something like, which of my employers have had more than one payroll query and a fee dispute?
  23. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Go for it. Be a bit specific about the time window, otherwise it'll guess.
  24. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    So it's given me a short list, and, hang on, I recognise two of those. One of them I already knew was grumpy. The other one I'd missed completely.
  25. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    That's the sort of thing that's hard to see when it's spread across the helpdesk, your CRM and the accounting system. Let's save this as a page so you can come back to it.
  26. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    A page. Right. Is that like a bookmark?
  27. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    A bit more than that. It keeps the question and refreshes the answer with the nightly update, so it stays current. Click save, give it a sensible name, and choose who can see it.
  28. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Done. I've called it watch list, which is not very imaginative, and I've kept it to myself for now.
  29. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    That's fine. You can share it with the rest of the client managers once you're happy it's useful.
  30. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Can I ask about the dashboards? Someone mentioned we get a builder as part of Growth.
  31. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    You do. I'd leave that for the next session with Euan, though, because it's easier once the basics are sticking. For today, let's do a couple more real questions so it feels natural.
  32. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Fine by me. I'd rather get one thing working properly than see everything at once.
  33. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    How are you getting on with those? I can see you've been through a few employers.
  34. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Better than I expected. Honestly, I'm still slower than my old way for some things, because I don't trust it yet. But for the history of a client, it's quicker.
  35. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    That's an honest answer, and it's the right instinct. Trust builds when you check a few and they're right. Try asking it something you already know the answer to, and see if it agrees.
  36. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Okay, I did that with one I know well. It got the main points right and missed a minor detail from an old email. Is that about the indexing?
  37. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Possibly, or the question was a touch broad. Rephrase it narrower and see. If it keeps missing it, note the employer and we'll look at it with Euan.
  38. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    We're getting near the end. Shall I recap what you'll try before we speak next?
  39. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Please. I've got some notes but they're a bit scrappy.
  40. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    So: use search first for any employer query, open the call summaries, ask two or three real questions a day in chat, and always look at the sources. Keep your watch list page and tell me what's missing from it.
  41. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Good. And I'll ask a couple of the other client managers to log in this week, so there are more of us at the next session.
  42. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Brilliant. I'll send a short written summary of today and the link for the next session, with Euan invited.
  43. Ailsa Pringle
    Ailsa Pringle
    Thanks Laura, that was more useful than I thought it would be. Speak soon.
  44. Laura Penhaligon
    Laura Penhaligon
    Cheers Ailsa, have a good rest of the afternoon. Bye for now.

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