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Kilternan Software logo Kilternan Software · 18 Sep 2025 15:45

Fergal Lynch, the economic buyer, wants the cost of answering credit union questions by hand before spending. Starter at £26k suits a first phase for customer success. He wants a written business case.

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As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Fergal Lynch, the economic buyer, wants the cost of answering credit union questions by hand before spending. Starter at £26k suits a first phase for customer success. He wants a written business case.

What happened: Lewis Kerr ran a discovery call on 18 Sep 2025 with Caoimhe Dunne and Fergal Lynch. They want something live by the end of the year.

Customer view: Support queries land in three places, and compliance answers are often in an inbox. Fergal asked what it costs to wait and said he is the economic buyer.

Commercial: The deal figure discussed was £26k on Starter, with customer success only in the first phase. Lewis would not quote a return without support volumes and hours.

Watch: Fergal wants the business case in writing, not a demo. Caoimhe raised data sensitivity for credit unions, and the solutions engineer is due to cover it next session.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Discovery and business case
Importance
upsell
Sentiment
neutral
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Lewis Kerr to send the business case framework on the day of the call.
  • Caoimhe Dunne to send support volumes and hours from the helpdesk within a week.
  • Solutions engineer to cover data security in the next session.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Fergal wants a written business case, and without support volumes BG-Demo cannot put a number on the cost of waiting.
  • Data sensitivity among credit union customers may slow the decision.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Starter for customer success as a first phase, with room to widen to other teams once it is working.

Transcript

  1. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Good afternoon Caoimhe, good afternoon Fergal. Can you both hear me?
  2. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    Yes, hi Lewis. Fergal's just joining, he was on another call.
  3. Fergal Lynch
    Fergal Lynch
    I'm here, sorry about that. Hi Lewis.
  4. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    No problem at all. What I'd like to confirm today is what you want to buy, and by when. Caoimhe, you mentioned a target before the year end.
  5. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    We'd like to be using something by the end of the year, yes. It's a big ask for us, to be honest, because our support queries land in three different places.
  6. Fergal Lynch
    Fergal Lynch
    Let me say it plainly. Our credit union customers ask the same compliance questions every month, and we answer them by hand. I'd like to know what that costs us before we spend a penny.
  7. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Fair. Let's do that together. Can you describe a typical question?
  8. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    A credit union asks whether a policy version was approved, and the answer is in a document, or in the helpdesk, or in someone's inbox. Half the time it's the inbox.
  9. Fergal Lynch
    Fergal Lynch
    Half the time it's my inbox, Caoimhe, let's be honest.
  10. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    Ha, fair enough.
  11. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    That's useful. The figure on the deal is £25,500 on Starter, which is one team, fifteen users and four connectors. Does that match how you'd roll it out?
  12. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    For the first phase, yes. Customer success only. We'd want to see it working first.
  13. Fergal Lynch
    Fergal Lynch
    And what does it cost us to wait? That's my real question.
  14. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    To put a number on it, I'd need your support volume and the hours it takes. I won't quote a return from memory. Could you send me those figures?
  15. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    We can pull that from the helpdesk. Give us a week.
  16. Fergal Lynch
    Fergal Lynch
    Fine. But Lewis, I'm the economic buyer, so I need the business case in writing, not a demo.
  17. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Understood. I'll send the business case framework today, and we'll agree the numbers once you've sent the volumes.
  18. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    Good. Can we talk about data? Our data is sensitive, and credit unions are very cautious.
  19. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Absolutely. Our solutions engineer covers that in the next session. For now, the system is built inside your own Snowflake account, which is the important bit.
  20. Fergal Lynch
    Fergal Lynch
    Right, I think we're agreed on next steps.
  21. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Agreed. Caoimhe, the volumes by next week. Fergal, the business case framework from me today.
  22. Fergal Lynch
    Fergal Lynch
    Good. Thanks, Lewis.
  23. Caoimhe Dunne
    Caoimhe Dunne
    Thanks Lewis, bye.
  24. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Thanks both. Speak soon.

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