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Totley Rise Software logo Totley Rise Software · 4 Aug 2026 10:00

Totley Rise's customer success head wants to end weekly copying between systems and see usage drops before renewals. The CEO wants cost clearly split out. A demo on sample data is to be booked.

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What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Totley Rise's customer success head wants to end weekly copying between systems and see usage drops before renewals. The CEO wants cost clearly split out. A demo on sample data is to be booked.

What happened: Lewis Kerr ran the 4 Aug 2026 discovery call with Louise Sutcliffe and CEO Simon Furniss. Simon had a board commitment and kept it brief.

Customer view: Louise described client records, tickets and usage held in separate tools, so a usage drop is not seen until the renewal is about three weeks away. She said the copying between systems is soul-destroying.

Commercial: Lewis quoted the CRM deal at £62k as the whole deal value, not a yearly figure. Simon asked for the cost split out before he sees anything else, and Lewis promised it the same day.

Watch: The evidence does not show a tier, a budget or a competitor. The number of renewals a year was left unchecked.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Discovery: system copying, renewal visibility
Importance
neutral
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Lewis Kerr to send the demo invite and the cost breakdown with the split today.
  • Louise Sutcliffe to tell Lewis which clients to use on the sample.
  • Lewis to get a short demo on sample data in the diary for the following week.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Simon wants the cost split before anything else, and a late or unclear breakdown could stall the deal.
  • Simon's time is short, so the demo must be brief to hold his attention.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Louise has a clear problem B-Viz addresses: records, tickets and usage in one place with early warning of usage drops.
  • Linking repeat tickets from the same client could be a priority test in the demo.

Transcript

  1. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Morning Louise, morning Simon. Lewis Kerr here, thanks for making the time. Before we start, what do you want to walk away with today, and by when?
  2. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    Morning Lewis. Honestly, I want to know if this can stop my team copying data between systems. We do it every week and it's soul-destroying.
  3. Simon Furniss
    Simon Furniss
    Morning. I'll be brief, I've got a board thing at eleven. What does it cost, and what's the quickest way to know if it's worth it?
  4. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    To put a number on it, the deal in our CRM is sitting at £62,000 at the moment. That's the whole deal value, not a yearly figure, and I'll confirm the breakdown in writing. But first let's understand the problem.
  5. Simon Furniss
    Simon Furniss
    Fine. Go on, Louise.
  6. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    So our customer success team has client records in the CRM, support tickets in the helpdesk, and usage in a separate tool. When a client's usage drops, nobody sees it until the renewal's three weeks away.
  7. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    That's useful. How do you find out about a drop today?
  8. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    Usually a manager spots it in a meeting, or the client rings us. By then it's late, and that's the bit I'd like to fix.
  9. Simon Furniss
    Simon Furniss
    How many renewals are we talking about in a year, roughly?
  10. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    Dozens. I'd rather check the exact figure than guess it on a call.
  11. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Fair. Louise, is the renewal timing the main pain, or is it the copying between systems?
  12. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    Both, really. The copying takes the time, and the renewal surprise is what makes people angry.
  13. Simon Furniss
    Simon Furniss
    Right. So if this works, what changes for my team on a Monday morning?
  14. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    They'd open one place and see a client's records, tickets and usage together, and they'd see a drop before the client calls.
  15. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    That's exactly the kind of thing we'd want to show on your own data. Would a demo on a sample of your records work for you?
  16. Simon Furniss
    Simon Furniss
    Yes, but keep it short. And I want the cost clearly split out before I see anything else.
  17. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Understood. I'll send that over today, and I'll make sure the split is in it.
  18. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    Can we also check the tickets side? Some of our clients open the same issue more than once, and nobody links them.
  19. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    That's a good one to test in the demo. Let's make it a priority on the sample.
  20. Simon Furniss
    Simon Furniss
    Lewis, one more thing. What's the next step, and who's doing what?
  21. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    I'll send the demo invite and the cost breakdown, and Louise, you tell me which clients to use on the sample. Let's get something in the diary for next week.
  22. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    Yes, I can do that. Thanks Lewis.
  23. Simon Furniss
    Simon Furniss
    Right, I have to go. Thanks both.
  24. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Thanks Simon, speak soon. Thanks Louise, I'll be in touch today.
  25. Louise Sutcliffe
    Louise Sutcliffe
    Bye Lewis.

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