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Rufforth Bakeries logo Rufforth Bakeries · 22 Oct 2025 10:00

Demo for Rufforth Bakeries on its own data. Melanie Scaife wanted complaints and credits matched with sources shown. Liam Sedgwick pressed on the older ERP, audit evidence and permissions. Written follow-ups were promised.

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As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Demo for Rufforth Bakeries on its own data. Melanie Scaife wanted complaints and credits matched with sources shown. Liam Sedgwick pressed on the older ERP, audit evidence and permissions. Written follow-ups were promised.

What happened: Hannah Lowe showed a single client view across CRM, helpdesk, orders and credits on Rufforth's data. A rephrased question gave the same answer and sources, and a late export showed a visible freshness warning.

Customer view: Melanie said retailers mind being wrong more than being delayed, so visible freshness fits her need. Liam probed the older ERP, the credit note link, role-based access and exit terms, and wants the answers in writing for audit.

Commercial: This is a Growth-style need, but no tier was named on this call. Dashboards for the weekly complaint review were deferred to the proposal stage, which is a possible later add.

Watch: The ERP connects through an export, not a live link, so export frequency decides how current answers are. Liam is to check the export timing, and that is the main open technical risk.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Demo on own data
Importance
upsell
Sentiment
positive
Voice
champion

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Hannah Lowe sends the field mapping and the access note to Liam and his manager.
  • Liam Sedgwick checks the ERP export timing.
  • Lewis Kerr sends the follow-up summary on the day of the call.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • The ERP is older and connects by export, so stale exports could undermine trust in answers.
  • Liam needs the credit link field mapping and the access note in writing for audit, and slippage would stall sign-off.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Dashboards for the weekly complaint review could be added once the subscription is agreed.
  • Visible source timestamps and freshness warnings match what Melanie says the team needs.

Transcript

  1. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Good morning all, thanks for joining. Before I start, Melanie, what does your team most need to see today?
  2. Melanie Scaife
    Melanie Scaife
    Morning Hannah. Honestly, we need to see a complaint and a credit side by side, and see whether they match.
  3. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Morning. Hannah's going to show that on your data, not on a sample, so it's a fair test.
  4. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Good. Can I ask first how it handles the ERP? We're on an older version and I don't want to be told it's easy when it isn't.
  5. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Fair. To be precise, we connect to the ERP through an export, not a live link. The short answer is it works. The longer answer is that the export frequency matters, and I'd like to show you how we check it's current.
  6. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Okay. So the freshness is visible?
  7. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Yes. Every answer shows the time the source was last updated. I'll show you that in a minute.
  8. Melanie Scaife
    Melanie Scaife
    Good. Can we start with the retailers' credits?
  9. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Yes. I'll open the view now. Give me a second, I'm switching to the shared screen.
  10. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Right. This is a single client across the CRM, the helpdesk, orders and credits. Ask it anything. I'd suggest a question you'd normally have to phone someone for.
  11. Melanie Scaife
    Melanie Scaife
    'Why did this retailer get a credit last month?'
  12. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    It's pulling the order, the complaint and the credit. Here it shows the complaint date, the order it links to and the credit note. The sources are all timestamped on the right.
  13. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Hang on, the credit note date is a day after the complaint. Is that a real link or a guess?
  14. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Good catch. It's a link through the order reference, not a guess. I'll put in writing exactly which field it uses, because I don't want you relying on my memory.
  15. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Please. I'll need that for the audit.
  16. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Let's note that as an action. Hannah, can you also show the answer is the same if someone asks the question a different way?
  17. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Yes. Try rephrasing it, Melanie.
  18. Melanie Scaife
    Melanie Scaife
    'What credits did we give this retailer last month, and why?'
  19. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Same result, with the same sources. That's the point: one source, one answer. Liam, does that match what you'd expect?
  20. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Mostly. I'd want to see what happens when the export is late.
  21. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Good, let's do that. I'll show you the freshness message, which is what the user sees when a source is out of date.
  22. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    And does it still answer?
  23. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    It does, but it says so. The short answer is yes, with a warning. The longer answer is that the warning is part of the answer, and it's not hidden.
  24. Melanie Scaife
    Melanie Scaife
    That's exactly what we need. Retailers don't mind a delay, they mind being wrong.
  25. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Put that on the list for sign-off.
  26. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Who can see what? Some of our credit notes are sensitive.
  27. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Access is by role, so the customer service team can see complaints, but not the finance detail unless they're on a finance role. I'll show the admin page.
  28. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    And that's enforced in the system, not just on screen?
  29. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Yes. To be precise, the permissions are enforced when the question runs, so a user never sees what their role can't see. I'll put that in writing, so you can check it against your policy.
  30. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Good. Send it to me and my manager.
  31. Melanie Scaife
    Melanie Scaife
    Can we see something for the weekly complaint review?
  32. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Dashboards are something we'd build together later. This afternoon it's pages and search. Let me show you what a saved page looks like.
  33. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    That's a good point to note for the proposal stage, if you go that way.
  34. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    One last thing. What happens to our data if we stop using you?
  35. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    You keep control of it. It sits in your own Snowflake account, so it's your data throughout. I'll put the exit steps in writing too.
  36. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    So next steps: Hannah sends the field mapping and the access note, Liam checks the ERP export timing, Melanie lists the retailer questions, and we follow up. I'll send that today.
  37. Melanie Scaife
    Melanie Scaife
    Thanks everyone, that was really useful.
  38. Hannah Lowe
    Hannah Lowe
    Thank you. Any questions, email me and I'll come back within the day.
  39. Liam Sedgwick
    Liam Sedgwick
    Cheers.
  40. Lewis Kerr
    Lewis Kerr
    Thanks all. Speak soon.

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