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Kelbrook Mutual Insurance logo Kelbrook Mutual Insurance · 2 Apr 2025 14:15

Check-in on 2 Apr 2025. Rebecca Ainsworth is enthusiastic and usage is rising, but claims uses B-Viz unevenly, her board asked what the term delivered, and finance has informally asked about premiums data.

What was said

What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Check-in on 2 Apr 2025. Rebecca Ainsworth is enthusiastic and usage is rising, but claims uses B-Viz unevenly, her board asked what the term delivered, and finance has informally asked about premiums data.

What happened: Marcus Bell reported eighteen or nineteen daily active users of eighty licensed, up by something like a quarter on the previous quarter. Four tickets in the month, none urgent, one about a late overnight refresh fixed the same day.

Customer view: Rebecca shared two member stories and said claims only use it when she is beside them. A board member asked what the term delivered, and she wants a proper answer.

Commercial: She described herself as the champion, not the signature, so sign-off sits elsewhere. Finance asked whether premiums can be seen, which touches the Growth connector limit; Rebecca thinks five are connected, unconfirmed.

Watch: The term runs to 16 Jan 2026. The evidence does not show whether the sessions or the value summary happened.

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Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Adoption and value story
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
positive
Voice
champion

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Marcus Bell to send dates for a claims session and an underwriting dashboards session.
  • Marcus to confirm the connector count by email and draft the usage and value summary well ahead of January.
  • Marcus to tell Tom Ashdown about the call and flag the finance data interest.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Claims handlers use B-Viz only with prompting and could revert to old systems.
  • A board member asked what the term delivered and the champion could only give a half answer.
  • The champion does not sign off contracts, so the decision-maker is not yet engaged.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Finance has informally asked about premiums data, which would need a new connector under the Growth limit.
  • Claims and underwriting training sessions could deepen use within the existing licences.

Transcript

  1. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Hello Rebecca, can you hear me all right?
  2. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    I can, yes. Good afternoon, Marcus. Sorry, I'm just getting the camera to behave. There we go.
  3. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    No problem at all. Afternoon. Did you get through the morning in one piece?
  4. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Just about. Can I tell you something first, because it's been on my mind all week? One of our relationship managers had a renewal meeting on Monday with a small church in a village outside Leeds. Lovely people. The hall roof had been leaking for a year and they'd been in touch with us about it twice, once by phone and once by email.
  5. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Right, and she had all that in front of her?
  6. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    She did. Before she even sat down she'd asked B-Viz for the policy, the open claim and the last call, and she walked in and said, I understand the roof has been a worry. The treasurer nearly fell off his chair. He said, nobody has ever just known that before. Let's not make them tell us twice, that's the whole point, isn't it?
  7. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    That's exactly the sort of thing I like to hear. Thanks for sharing that. It's a lot better than a usage chart.
  8. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Well, I hope you've got a usage chart as well.
  9. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    I have, yes. I've pulled the numbers. Let me share my screen, hang on. Can you see it? It should say Kelbrook at the top.
  10. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Yes, I can see it. A bit small, but yes.
  11. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    I'll make it bigger. Better? So what I wanted to cover today is three things. How people are using it, the tickets you've raised with us this month, and then what you'd like from us over the next few months. Does that work?
  12. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    That works. Go on.
  13. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Okay. You've got 80 licensed users on Growth. On an average day we're seeing roughly eighteen or nineteen of them active over the last month. That's a good step up on the previous quarter, up by something like a quarter again, which is the biggest jump I've seen on any of the accounts I look after.
  14. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Mm. Only eighteen or nineteen out of eighty, though. Is that good or is that me being greedy?
  15. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    It's a fair question. I'd say it's a daily average, so a lot more people than that will dip in across a week. And the trend matters more than the level. It was lower, it's rising, and it's not a few people hammering it. It's spread across more of the team.
  16. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Is that the whole picture, though? Who's actually asking the questions? Because I know I ask a lot of them.
  17. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    You do, you're still near the top. But if I scroll down here, you can see underwriting has come up a lot. Two of the underwriters are in the top few. Member services is the biggest group, as you'd expect. Claims is the quiet one.
  18. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Yeah. That doesn't surprise me. Claims is the team I worry about.
  19. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Why's that, do you think?
  20. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    They're very careful people. They've got their own systems and their own way of doing things, and they've been burnt before by tools that promised to join everything up. So they use it when I'm standing next to them and go back to the old way when I'm not.
  21. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    That's useful to know. Because what I can see is that when claims handlers do use it, they're mostly asking about the member's call history, the sort of thing where they want the context before ringing someone back. So it's the same value your relationship managers are getting. They just haven't made it a habit.
  22. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Right. So what would help? I don't want to just send an email telling them to use it.
  23. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    No, that never works. Happy to jump on a call with them, a short training session, built on their own cases. Not a general tour. We'd pick three or four real situations, a member who rang twice about the same claim, that sort of thing, and show how you'd ask for it.
  24. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    I like that. If it's their own cases they'll see themselves in it. Could it be a team meeting slot? They've got one on Thursday mornings.
  25. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    I'd have to check my diary, I'm in Manchester most of the week, but it's a video session so it's easy enough. Shall we book half an hour and see how it goes? I can always do a second one.
  26. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Let's do that. I'll speak to the claims team leader first so she isn't ambushed.
  27. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Perfect. That'll go better if she's on board.
  28. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Oh, she will be, she's lovely. She's just protective of her people.
  29. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Fair enough. Okay, let me move on to the tickets. You've raised four in the last month. None of them urgent, none flagged high priority, and nothing is sitting open and unanswered. Two were how-to questions, one was about a connector refresh being a bit slow one morning, and one was a request about permissions on a page.
  30. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    The slow one was me, I think. I was cross, I'm afraid. I came in and the overnight data hadn't landed yet.
  31. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Yes, I saw that. It was sorted the same day. The overnight refresh should be finished by seven on business days, and that morning it ran late. I'd rather you did raise things like that. It's how we spot a problem before it turns into a pattern.
  32. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    I will. I just don't want to be that customer.
  33. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    You're not. Honestly, four tickets from a team that's growing its use is what I'd expect. It's the accounts that go quiet that I'd look at twice.
  34. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Well, we're not quiet. You've seen the dashboards?
  35. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    I was coming to that. I can see you've built a few. Is that your team or somebody in underwriting?
  36. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Mostly mine, but one of the underwriters built one on her own last month, for the schools portfolio. I didn't even know until she showed me. Which was a nice surprise, actually.
  37. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    That's a good sign, that someone's doing it without being asked. It means they trust the data enough to build on it. The dashboards builder is part of Growth, so that's exactly what it's there for.
  38. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    She'd probably like a bit of a hand, to be honest. She said it took her a while to get the filters right.
  39. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Let me note that down. I could fold a dashboards walkthrough into the same slot as the claims session, or do a separate one for underwriting. What would you prefer?
  40. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Separate, I think. Claims will want to talk about members and underwriting will want to talk about portfolios. Different conversations.
  41. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Sensible. So two short sessions. I'll send some dates once I've looked at the diary.
  42. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Thank you. Now, can I ask you something a bit different?
  43. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Of course.
  44. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    We signed up on the two-year term, and I know it feels like ages away, but somebody on our board asked me last week what we'd actually got for it. I gave a half answer. I'd like a proper one by the time it comes round.
  45. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    That's very sensible to ask now. So you've been with us since 17 Jan 2024, and the term runs to 16 Jan 2026. Plenty of time, but you're right to want the story ready, rather than scrambling for it in the final few weeks.
  46. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    What would the story look like? I don't want a glossy brochure.
  47. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    No, nothing like that. I'd put together a plain summary. How usage has moved quarter by quarter, the questions people are asking, which teams, a couple of examples like your church roof. And I'd want you to tell me what changed in the work. Fewer repeat calls, shorter prep time, anything like that. Even rough.
  48. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    I can do rough. Prep time for renewal meetings has dropped a lot. The managers used to spend an hour pulling things together from three places. Now it's minutes.
  49. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    That's the sort of line a board understands. Could you ask a couple of the managers to put a number on it, in their own words? I'd rather it came from them than from me.
  50. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    I can do that. I'll ask them informally, so it isn't a survey.
  51. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Perfect. And on the commercial side, I'll be honest, that's Tom's area. Tom Ashdown, your account owner. I look after how it's being used, he looks after terms. I'll make sure he knows we've spoken, and he'll come to you nearer the time.
  52. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    That's fine. I wouldn't agree anything anyway without the person who signs these things off here. I'm the champion, not the signature.
  53. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Understood. And that's fine. The more they see in advance, the easier that conversation is.
  54. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Right. Can I ask about growing it, though? Not now, just in principle. If the claims team does come on board, and perhaps another team after that, are we going to hit a ceiling?
  55. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Not on users. You've got 80 licensed and you're nowhere near that on a daily basis, so there's plenty of headroom. The other limit is connectors. How many sources have you got connected at the moment?
  56. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    The policy system, the claims system, the call recorder and the email. Oh, and the helpdesk. So five, I think? I'd have to check.
  57. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    I'll check on my side and confirm. Growth has a ceiling on connectors, and I'd want to be sure you know where you stand before anybody asks you for a new one. If you did want, say, finance data brought in, we'd talk it through. Nothing for you to worry about today.
  58. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Finance has asked, funnily enough. Not formally. One of them said, can you see premiums in there?
  59. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Ha, there you go. That's what I mean by deeper roots. When other teams start asking, it usually means the value has become visible. I'll flag it to Tom as something to explore, no pressure on your side.
  60. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Good. Just not before I've sorted claims. One thing at a time.
  61. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Agreed. Claims first. Is there anything on the quality side you want to raise? Answers that were wrong, things that felt off?
  62. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    A couple of times it didn't find a call that I knew had happened. But I think that was the recorder, they'd not uploaded it. Not your problem.
  63. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Could still be worth a look. If you send me the member and the rough day, I'll check whether it ever arrived on our side. If it did, we've got something to fix. If it didn't, at least we know.
  64. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    I'll find the details and send them over. I think it was one of the helpline calls.
  65. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Brilliant. Thank you. And I can't promise when or how anything would get changed if it's a bug, I'd have to ask the engineers, but I'll tell you what I find out as soon as I know.
  66. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    That's all I'd ask.
  67. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Okay. Let me stop sharing for a second. Right. Anything else on your mind, before we agree who does what?
  68. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    One more story, if you've got a minute. A member rang the helpline last week, quite upset, a charity running a youth centre. Whoever picked up the phone, one of the newer people, asked B-Viz what had happened on their policy. And she could see that the last two conversations had been about a quote that had been delayed. So she opened by apologising for that.
  69. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Which is a very different call from the one she'd have had otherwise.
  70. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Completely different. The member ended up thanking her. That's what I mean when I say, what does the member see? They see somebody who knows them.
  71. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    That's gold for the summary, actually. Would you be happy for me to use that in the write-up for your board? Without naming the charity, obviously.
  72. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Yes, as long as nobody could identify them. Keep it general.
  73. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Of course. So, to recap. I'll send you dates for two short sessions, one with claims built around their own cases and one on dashboards for underwriting. I'll check the connector count and confirm it by email. I'll look into the missing helpline call if you send me the details. And I'll draft the summary of usage and value for you to review, well ahead of January, and let Tom know we've talked.
  74. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    And I'll speak to the claims team leader, ask the managers about prep time in their own words, and send you that call detail. Have I got that right?
  75. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    That's it exactly. No rush on yours. Whenever you've got a spare minute.
  76. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    Thanks, Marcus. This was useful. I always feel better after we've spoken, which is more than I can say for most vendors.
  77. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Ha, thank you. That's kind. Speak soon, then. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon.
  78. Rebecca Ainsworth
    Rebecca Ainsworth
    You too. Kind regards to everyone at your end. Bye for now.
  79. Marcus Bell
    Marcus Bell
    Bye, Rebecca. Thanks.

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