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Abermule Insurance / BG-Demo – Discovery

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Abermule Insurance logo Abermule Insurance · 17 Jun 2026 15:00

Discovery call with Abermule Insurance on 17 Jun 2026. They are considering Enterprise, want cost to serve by broker, and need the one-off and ongoing split and security dates in writing before deciding.

What was said

What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Discovery call with Abermule Insurance on 17 Jun 2026. They are considering Enterprise, want cost to serve by broker, and need the one-off and ongoing split and security dates in writing before deciding.

What happened: Tom Ashdown ran discovery with Carys Pugh and CFO Emyr Hopkins, then showed the broker view sorted by claims contact against premium.

Customer view: Carys described brokers asking the same question in several systems. Emyr said "I see the premium, not the friction" and wants cost to serve by broker. He asked for policy and claims joined first.

Commercial: Both said they are looking at Enterprise, company-wide. Tom named a deal of £155k on BG-Demo's side but did not confirm what it covers. The aim is a decision and go-live at the end of January, a plan and not a commitment.

Watch: Emyr will decide whether to go further after reading the written split and security dates. The evidence does not show whether they were sent.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Enterprise cost-to-serve discovery
Importance
upsell
Sentiment
positive
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Tom Ashdown to send the one-off and ongoing split in writing to Emyr Hopkins and Carys Pugh.
  • Tom Ashdown to confirm security review timing with the solutions team and share dates.
  • Tom Ashdown to raise starting the security review early with the solutions team.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Emyr Hopkins will decide whether to go further only after the written price split and security dates arrive.
  • The security review timing is unconfirmed and the end of January go-live depends on it.
  • Tom Ashdown quoted the deal amount without confirming what it covers.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Enterprise suits the company-wide need Carys Pugh described, with extra governance control and audit trail.
  • Cost to serve by broker is a clear value case for the CFO.

Transcript

  1. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Afternoon Carys, afternoon Emyr. Tom from BG-Demo. Can you both hear me?
  2. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Yes, clear. Sorry, I'm in the car park, so I might drop out.
  3. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    I can hear you. Carys has told me what this is about, so I'll keep it to the point.
  4. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Brilliant. How's the week been, Carys? Busy with the broker renewals?
  5. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Always busy. We've got a lot of brokers and a lot of files going through. That's why I wanted this call.
  6. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Good. Tell me about broker management. What's painful at the moment?
  7. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Brokers send us the same question three times in three different systems. Our claims people chase the answer, and the broker thinks we're slow.
  8. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    From my side, I don't know which brokers are worth the time. I see the premium, not the friction.
  9. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    That's a useful distinction. So the question is cost to serve against premium, by broker?
  10. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Yes. That's exactly it. I need that by broker, not by team.
  11. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Right. Which systems hold it at the moment? Let's start with the big ones.
  12. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Our policy system, the claims system and the broker portal. Plus a lot of email, which is the bit nobody can search.
  13. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    I'd want the policy system and claims joined up before we talk about the portal. Can that be done?
  14. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    It can be connected to the systems you name, and each answer would show the source and the date of the record. I'll have our solutions team confirm how that works for your set-up.
  15. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Confirm, don't assume. I'd like that in writing.
  16. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    You'll have it. Emyr, do you want to know the cost before the demo?
  17. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Yes, I'd like a sense of it now. We're looking at Enterprise, I think.
  18. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    That's what we're considering. We need the company-wide option, not just my team.
  19. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    The deal's sitting at £155,000 on our side. I'd rather not quote from memory, so I'll confirm exactly what that covers, one-off and ongoing, before anything's agreed.
  20. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Good. I'm not interested in a headline. I need the split, one-off and ongoing, and I need it in writing.
  21. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Understood. You'll get it in writing from me this week.
  22. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    And the security side? We'll have a review, I expect. How long does that take?
  23. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Our solutions team runs the security review on Enterprise. I'll confirm the timing with them and not guess it now.
  24. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Yes, please don't guess. Emyr will want the controls in writing, with dates.
  25. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Sure. We'd want a clear list of what you need from us, and the dates we commit to.
  26. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Right. What's the timetable? I'd like to know when we'd be live if we sign.
  27. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    We're aiming at the end of January for a decision and go-live. That's our plan, not a commitment yet.
  28. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Fine. That's realistic if the security review goes smoothly.
  29. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    It would be easier if we start the review early, actually. Before the final price.
  30. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Good idea. I'll raise that with the solutions team today.
  31. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Shall I show you the broker view now? It's the one Carys asked about.
  32. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Yes, please. I want to see a broker with a claim open and a question outstanding.
  33. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Okay. I'll share the screen. Can you see the broker list?
  34. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Yes. Show me the one that costs the most to serve. That's the one I'll ask about.
  35. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Right. Sorting by claims contact against premium. That one's at the top.
  36. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Yes, I know that one. That's the broker who rings us every morning.
  37. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    So that's our cost to serve, right there. Premium's not the whole picture.
  38. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    That's the point. Each row links to its source, so you can open the claim and check it.
  39. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Good. That's exactly what my team would want. Not for the reports, for the calls.
  40. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    One question on governance. Who sees the data, and who can export it?
  41. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Admins control that, and every change is logged. On Enterprise there's more control, which I'll confirm in writing.
  42. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Good. I'd want the audit trail. That's a must.
  43. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Agreed. Tom, I'll look at the written split and the security dates, then decide whether we go further.
  44. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    That's fair. I'll send both to you and Carys.
  45. Carys Pugh
    Carys Pugh
    Right, I need to go, I've got a claims call. Thanks Tom, thanks Emyr.
  46. Emyr Hopkins
    Emyr Hopkins
    Thank you. Speak soon.
  47. Tom Ashdown
    Tom Ashdown
    Cheers Carys, Emyr. Speak soon, have a good one.

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