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Yealmpton Accountants logo Yealmpton Accountants · 15 Aug 2025 14:45

Renewal call for the Starter tier at £20k a year. Usage has slipped and the managing partner says he will struggle to justify the same price unless the partners can see it being used. Signature wanted by 8 Sep 2025.

What was said

What this says

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Renewal call for the Starter tier at £20k a year. Usage has slipped and the managing partner says he will struggle to justify the same price unless the partners can see it being used. Signature wanted by 8 Sep 2025.

What happened: Priya Raman set out the Starter renewal for fifteen seats at £20k a year, with a new term starting on 23 Sep 2025 if signed by Monday 8 Sep 2025. She shared the order form during the call.

Customer view: Jenny Trethewey said client managers like seeing deadlines and fees on one page. She also said some people have drifted back to spreadsheets because they do not trust the fee numbers yet.

Commercial: Nicholas Pengelly said his worry is the cost, not the tool, and he will struggle to justify the same price without evidence of use. Roger Yeo said purchase approval takes a week or so.

Watch: Daniel Okafor promised options for a short training session for the client managers by the end of the week. The partners do not use the tool day to day, so the value case rests on the managers adopting it.

AI · claude-sonnet-5-5 · as at Fri 9 Oct 2026

Themes

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
Theme
Starter renewal, price and usage
Importance
renewal
Sentiment
mixed
Voice
decision-maker

Who was there

BG-Demo

Them

Follow-up

Next steps

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Daniel Okafor to send training session options to Jenny Trethewey by the end of the week.
  • Priya Raman to send the order form and a written price breakdown to Nicholas Pengelly and Roger Yeo.
  • Customer to return the signed order form by Monday 8 Sep 2025.

Risks

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • Nicholas Pengelly may not approve the same price if the partners cannot see the tool being used.
  • Some client managers have gone back to spreadsheets because they distrust the fee numbers.
  • Purchase approval on the customer side takes about a week, which narrows the margin before 8 Sep 2025.

Opportunities

As at Fri 9 Oct 2026
  • A short training session for the client managers could lift usage and give the partners a value case.
  • Client managers already value having deadlines and fees on one page.

Transcript

  1. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Hi both, thanks for making the time. Give me a second, I'm just letting everyone in.
  2. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    Afternoon Daniel, loud and clear. Sorry, I was on another call right up until a minute ago, so I'm a bit frazzled.
  3. Jenny Trethewey
    Jenny Trethewey
    Hello, can you hear us? Nicholas is here, he's just getting his headphones sorted.
  4. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Brilliant. Jenny, how's the team been? I know year end was a lot.
  5. Jenny Trethewey
    Jenny Trethewey
    Busy. Everyone's chasing clients for paperwork, so we've all been living in the tool. Honestly it's good. The client managers say they can see deadlines and fees on one page, which is what we wanted.
  6. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    That's great to hear. Right, shall we crack on? So we're clear on where we are: you're on Starter, fifteen seats, and the contract runs out at the end of September. I'd love to get the renewal signed before then so nothing lapses.
  7. Nicholas Pengelly
    Nicholas Pengelly
    Yes, that's the idea. Is it the same as last year? I'm not having the price go up without a reason.
  8. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    Same tier, same seats. The contracted figure is £19,500 a year, and that's what we'd be renewing at. If we can get it signed by Monday 8 Sep 2025, the new term starts on 23 Sep 2025 with no gap.
  9. Nicholas Pengelly
    Nicholas Pengelly
    Right. And that's the all-in number?
  10. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    I'll put the exact breakdown in writing for you and Roger so you've got it on paper.
  11. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    I'll make sure of that. Can I check the usage side before we go further, because that's what I'd want in front of the partners? It's come down a little since the spring.
  12. Jenny Trethewey
    Jenny Trethewey
    Yeah, I've noticed. A few people have drifted back to the old spreadsheets. Not everyone, mind.
  13. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    That's useful. How's the team finding it? Is it training, or do the people who've stopped just not need it day to day?
  14. Jenny Trethewey
    Jenny Trethewey
    Bit of both, I think. The juniors use it, the partners don't really. Some of the client managers still work from the spreadsheets because they don't trust the fee numbers yet.
  15. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Okay. The fee numbers should be coming through nightly, so that's worth a proper look. Could we set up a short session for those managers? I'll come back to you by the end of the week with a few options.
  16. Nicholas Pengelly
    Nicholas Pengelly
    Sensible. My worry is the cost, not the tool. If we can't show the partners it's being used, I'll struggle to justify the same price again.
  17. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    Totally fair, Nicholas. The honest answer is that the best protection for the renewal is the team using it more. I'm happy to make this easy for you, and if we can get it over the line early in September, the new year starts without a fuss.
  18. Roger Yeo
    Roger Yeo
    Roger here, sorry, I've only just got in. We'll need a purchase approval on our side, and that takes a week or so. Do you need the signed form back by a particular date?
  19. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    Ideally by Monday 8 Sep 2025, that gives you a clear margin. I'll send the order form over this afternoon.
  20. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Give me a moment, I'm just going to look at the usage view while we talk. Sorry, bear with me.
  21. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Right, sorry, I'm back. Priya, you were going to share the order form.
  22. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    Sharing it now. It's the same terms as last year, with the new dates on the front.
  23. Roger Yeo
    Roger Yeo
    I see the figure at the bottom. Is that per year, or over the whole term?
  24. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    It's per year, Roger. The contract is annual, paid in advance.
  25. Roger Yeo
    Roger Yeo
    Okay, that's what I thought. Just wanted to be sure before we get to the partners.
  26. Nicholas Pengelly
    Nicholas Pengelly
    Fine. So what would you need from us to sign?
  27. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    Just the signature on the order form, and a PO number if you use one.
  28. Nicholas Pengelly
    Nicholas Pengelly
    We'll get it done.
  29. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Lovely. Let me set up the training session. Jenny, are you the right person to pull the client managers together?
  30. Jenny Trethewey
    Jenny Trethewey
    Me, I'd say. I'll gather the managers, but I'd like it short.
  31. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Short is fine. Twenty minutes? Okay. I'll send you two or three times.
  32. Jenny Trethewey
    Jenny Trethewey
    Twenty's good. Give me a couple of weeks to get everybody in one room.
  33. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Right, I think we've covered it all. I'll send the summary today.
  34. Priya Raman
    Priya Raman
    Perfect. Thank you everyone. Happy to make this easy.
  35. Nicholas Pengelly
    Nicholas Pengelly
    Thanks all, speak soon.
  36. Roger Yeo
    Roger Yeo
    Cheers, bye.
  37. Jenny Trethewey
    Jenny Trethewey
    Bye, thanks.
  38. Daniel Okafor
    Daniel Okafor
    Bye, take care.

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